Ron Paul and Racism: A Funny Exchange (CHOW Baby!)

This is a big debate going on right now between power-bloggers David Neiwert and Glenn Greenwald about whether Ron Paul is taking money from, and catering to, white supremacist groups.

I skimmed some commentary about the debate but I can't claim to be all that knowledgeable about it. I might be voting in the Republican primary (we're allowed to do that here in Georgia) just to try and get someone elected who turns out to be easier for the Democratic candidate to beat. So I have sort of an interest in the topic, but not enough to really delve deeply into it.

As I was skimming, I ran across a hilarious and biting exchange in the 349+ comment section at Orcinus. Maybe you'll find it funny too. It gave me some much-needed comic relief.

Why don't you Ron Paul haters out there admit it....Just stop trying to put a cute twist on it and come out with it .You hate traditional America and everything it was built upon, (including the evil white men who made it) and you want to build a new foreign political system more in line with your more modern, socialistic and globalist viewpoints. One where you can blame all of society's problems on some other group and distort any facts that don't pass though your filters to help you and your friends ostracize your opposition. It's become the American way, if you can't buy them off, then destroy their reputation with lies and innuendo. Judged by those standards, perhaps we Ron Paul supporters are the odd balls in society now. I'm proudly, NOT part of the sheep pen! Wes | 11.14.07 - 11:15 am | #

>>You hate traditional America and everything it was built upon, (including the evil white men who made it) and you want to build a new foreign political system more in line with your more modern, socialistic and globalist viewpoints. Hint: if you want to discredit attacks on your boy as a cryptofascist, going in and spouting standard fascist apologia about rebirth of the nation, traditional values and red-baiting isn't the best way to go about it. BlackBloc | Homepage | 11.14.07 - 11:28 am | #

including the evil white men who made the blacks and Chinese make it fixed your typo, wes L.W.M. | 11.14.07 - 11:34 am | #

I'm proudly, NOT part of the sheep pen! Wes | 11.14.07 - 11:15 am | But I thought sheep shagging was a time honored activity in traditional rural America. Seriously, if the best you can do is to pull a Limbaugh and equate the absence of support for Paul with hating "traditional" America then you are wasting your time here. It begs the question, though, that since slavery was once considered traditional then is that a tradition that we should honour and respect? Gregory | 11.14.07 - 11:35 am | #

Gregory, on the issue of slavery, I think Ron Paul would say "let the states decide." I don't see why he would treat the 13th Amendment any differently than the 1st. To do so would violate his endlessly hyped consistent "constitutionalism." Rusty Shackleford | 11.14.07 - 11:39 am | #

Wes, haven't you got it yet? *We can't go back*. There's no way to return us to the conditions of the 19th century, however much you wish it. The attempt is destroying us: that is Iraq, that is Homeland "Security". That's the whole story here; the big one which underlies fascism everywhere. *We can't go back*. All we can do is try to coerce the present into your image of the past, with ever increasing violence, until finally there is only horror and failure. Why not go forward instead? I can't promise you your dreams, but at least there's something there. Randolph Fritz | 11.14.07 - 11:40 am | #

Rusty, It seems to me that the Paulistas yearn for a mythical Golden Age in 'Mur-ka when the coin was gold, the wife was in the kitchen and the black man was happily picking cotton in the field while singing spirituals. It must have been a great time to be a white man with money. How the 21st century must suck for them... Gregory | 11.14.07 - 11:46 am | #

It seems to me that the Paulistas yearn for a mythical Golden Age in 'Mur-ka when the coin was gold, the wife was in the kitchen and the black man was happily picking cotton in the field while singing spirituals. It must have been a great time to be a white man with money. How the 21st century must suck for them... Indeed. One of the commenters on Greenwald's original post nailed it by observing that what Ron Paul really is is a Confederate. I think that's correct. Rusty Shackleford | 11.14.07 - 11:50 am | #

I don't get? Sorry...........I didn't know there was anything left to get besides the Constitution. You know, limited government, the bill of rights, keep the government out of my business and pocketbook. That "stuff". I know from reading your posts that it's not important to you people. Do what you like. I wonder though, did you ever take any basic history class in school covering the basics of American Government, not written by an ebonics instructor? Wes | 11.14.07 - 11:52 am | #

Thanks for the update, Wes. There was still a shred of doubt about your racism. Rusty Shackleford | 11.14.07 - 11:53 am | #

Wes | 11.14.07 - 11:52 am | Yes, it is obvious from the extensive use of ebonics on this thread that we are clearly commie socialists intent on destroying America by corrupting the youth. Ebonics, Wes? That is classic. Up next, "Dittoheads Gone Wild". Gregory | 11.14.07 - 12:00 pm | #

Oh no! You called me a racist!!!!!! Stop!!!!! You're giving me chills! Wes | 11.14.07 - 12:03 pm | #

As a matter of fact, your personal attacks have done nothing but prove my points. Personally I don't care what color you are....I think you are wrong and ignorant of the facts. Just my .02 cents worth. Wes | 11.14.07 - 12:07 pm | #

I have the feeling, Wes, that you're the kind of guy who thinks that anything anybody says "proves your points," whatever they are. Rusty Shackleford | 11.14.07 - 12:12 pm | #

Yeah Rusty.....some of us are blessed that way. Well I'm off to spread the message to others while there is still time. Keep the faith! Chow BABY! Wes | 11.14.07 - 12:19 pm | #

Wes, Please continue to spread the Paul message. I cannot think of a better spokesman. Gregory | 11.14.07 - 12:21 pm | #

I agree with Gregory. Wes, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for being the public face of Ron Paul's supporters. Rusty Shackleford | 11.14.07 - 12:22 pm | #